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The way a man kisses can tell you a lot. Men who fancy themselves artists usually get a little too, err, artistic with their smooching. It’s almost as if they’re trying to paint something on your face with their tongue. Sometimes you can tell a man is only three lays beyond being a virgin, because his kiss reminds you of the first one you ever got—you know that awkward one behind the swing set at school, where nobody really did anything? And look, everybody has to learn how to be a good kisser at some point. We just don’t really know how it’s possible that so many men haven’t learned by the time they’re adults. Fully-grown, bill-paying, jury-duty-serving adults are still making a mess of things when it comes to making out. Here are 15 types of kissers we cannot believe still exist.

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Giphy.com/Tongue action

The tongue excavation

The guy who seems like he’s trying to find a diamond he left behind one of your molars, with his tongue. You’re sure his tongue is going to cramp up before he finds it.

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Howtokissgifs.com

The overly romantic kisser

You know the one; the guy who kisses you as if you’ve been married for ten years, but he had to go off to war for the last seven of those, and he’s just greeting you for the first time at the train station. We’re talking full hands on your face, dipping you backward performance. But, like, you just got nachos together and met on Tinder.

Tumblr.com/Amanda Bynes awkward kiss

Tumblr.com/Amanda Bynes awkward kiss

Fear of the tongue

Then there is the guy who is afraid of the tongue. The second you start putting yours into action, he pulls back, composes himself, and tries to start the kiss all over. He probably has some sort of Madonna/you-know-what complex. He likes to keep things very vanilla.

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Popkey.co/crazy eyes

So much eye contact

This kisser seems like he’s more into having a staring contest than kissing you. He’ll do a half-second kiss, pull back to stare you in the eyes for too many seconds, go back in for a tiny kiss and repeat. Is he, like, inspecting your pupils? Is he an eye doctor?!