In the times of cancel culture, it’s almost guaranteed that anyone who puts themselves out there on social media enough will face their day of reckoning. While cancel culture is not as prevalent as it has been in recent years, celebrities, podcasters and influencers alike will still be condemned and held accountable in the court of public opinion for their transgressions.

This past week, two Black British podcasters, James Duncan and Fuhad Dawodu, went from being revered to being shunned by the internet for not defending Black women on their guest appearance of Andrew Schulz’s Flagrant podcast.

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James Duncan and Fuhad Dawodu of Shxtsngigs pose with the Best Media Personality award in the winner’s room during the MOBO Awards 2024 at Utilita Arena Sheffield on February 07, 2024, in Sheffield, England. Source: Joseph Okpako / Getty

 

Schulz, Duncan, and Dawodu – along with other men from the Flagrant podcast, covered several topics. One of those discussed was the “Black girlfriend effect,” which is a trend where interracial couples show how non-Black men have glowed up after being in a relationship with Black women.

Duncan detailed that the men will transform their look and suddenly have a “clean shape up,” to which Schulz responded by shaking his head. Schulz said, “They shave their head because they start losing it because they’re so stressed being around this Black girl complaining about sh-t all the f-cking time.”

But he didn’t stop there, he made another statement this time with the insinuation that Black women are violent. He claimed white men “grow a beard because there’s more cushion when they get slapped the f-ck out of it,” by their Black girlfriend.

Duncan and Dawodu sat opposite Schulz and laughed. Because the ShxtsnGigs podcasters failed to stop Schultz from making more distasteful comments about Black women, the flagrant host could continue his derogatory rant. He said the Black girlfriend effect “might be a protective instinct.”

He then went on to ask if the duo had dated both Black and white women to which they both said they have. He asked them which type of woman they liked better and after a moment of hesitation Dawodu said “we love them all.” Another Flagrant podcaster said “that means white” before the room roars with laughter again.

Once the clip from the episode—which was initially aired in July—began spreading like wildfire online, fans and spectators of the pair expressed widespread disappointment in how they handled the conversation.

While they have come together to issue a video statement, and even declared that “it’s not going to happen again,” the damage has been done. It reaffirmed for many of their fans that Black women are rarely, if ever, protected and defended. Schulz’ harmful comments reiterated the racial stereotypes that Black women have endured for years of being considered as aggressive and nagging.

What’s dangerous about two Black men allowing comments like the ones Schulz made to go unchecked, is that it leaves room for these comments to be considered as acceptable. Staying silent can also normalize the belief behind the stereotypes, thus continuing to harm the image of Black women.

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