Making The Brand: MTV’s VP of Marketing Damon Burrell
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By: De’Juan Galloway
When a media company can define a generation, it goes without saying that its content and distinctiveness resonate well with the masses. This is the case for MTV; an iconic network that launched in 1981 and has since become a prominent agency influencing popular culture. We have watched music legends build their career on the channel but a facet less known about the network is the business. Meet Damon Burrell, vice president of marketing at MTV Networks. His road to the executive office began at the University of Iowa. He attributes his on-campus marketing experience as key in developing his interest in the business. His relocation from the Midwest to New York City enabled him play ball in the media capital of the world, consequently arriving at MTV. As the VP of marketing his leadership has proven effective. In 2008, MTV’s presence on the social web–a by product of their marketing department–was ranked number eight on Virtue’s 100 Top Social Brands. This year, Burrell and his team are the recipients of an Adweek Buzz award for “Best Out Of Home Advertisement.” In his office overlooking Manhattan’s West Side, Burrell spoke with TAP about his professional journey and the business behind why people “want their MTV”.
How did your career in marketing begin?
I began my career in marketing as early as my Sophomore year in college. I was lucky enough to have landed a job for the University where I was responsible for promoting events, student programs and store sales on campus. My first campaign was actually “Burgers and Fries on sale in the Student Union. Hurry While Supplies Last!” This is the time where I developed a foundation and understanding of marketing, how to manage clients, and how to formulate insights into a target audience. Given that I was an economics major, minor in marketing, it was easier for me to bring analytical concepts into what I was doing from a marketing perspective. As I gained more experience, I realized that I wanted to work at an ad agency and help build brands.
Once you graduated, what where those developmental experiences that led to MTV?
My first job out of college was working for a small advertising agency in Chicago, where I was responsible for many functions. Given the size of the agency it gave me the opportunity to see and participate first hand in the creation of media planning and buying, marketing strategy, creative development, research analysis and event promotion. I really lucked out because typically that level of exposure takes 3-4 years to accumulate and usually over multiple accounts and/or agencies. After a year or two there it was time to move on. I had an opportunity to work with some of the bigger players in the agency world, Doyle Dane Bernach & Ogilvy & Mather, working on blue chip accounts such as State Farm, US West and Ameritrade.
I am extremely thankful for those experiences because they truly gave me a solid foundation and understanding of traditional advertising, marketing and media. However, even with that I still felt as if I needed to round out my marketing background with more of a Digital area of expertise so I moved to New York to begin working for Agency.com, a website development, online advertising and marketing agency . There I handled the Discovery Network account and I was responsible for all the online advertising and website development projects for the Discovery brands in the U.S. This is where my passion for Television and Entertainment was discovered. Discovery led me to MTV and I am now in my fifth year with the network.
What is a typical day like as VP of marketing?
To be honest with you, there really isn’t a typical day. I think that’s the reason why I like being here.
How did yesterday play out?
Yesterday was a mix of putting out fires all day because our fiscal year is coming to a close and we have budget presentations coming up soon. I spent a lot of time reviewing competitive information and figuring out how much money is necessary to spend next year in order to gain increased market share against certain demographics. Additionally, I reviewed the impact of how spending X amount of dollars would impact our overall business.
How has quick-developing technology altered the marketing landscape?
On the consumer side, social media is playing a huge role in how we approach and handle marketing. Back track five years ago, the amount of data regarding individual audiences was available on a monthly, if not quarterly basis. Nowadays, social data is readily available every second. So, the biggest shift is being able to figure out how to adjust and change the way we communicate with our audience in real-time; listen to what they are saying, engage in a two way dialogue and provide them with relevant experiences that bring value.
The social data that’s available is also creating an opportunity to affect business decisions as well. This has put an emphasis on marketing’s ability to show a return on investment beyond traditional brand norms such as Awareness or Intent. Marketing is no longer a department responsible for putting together pretty ad campaigns or television spots. Now marketing has the ability to help inform business strategy due to social data uncovering where both the audience and competitive opportunities exist.
Has interactivity via social media allowed the audience to influence MTV’s programming or anything in terms of operations?
Well, without giving away any competitive secrets, I will say that we’re constantly monitoring the conversations that our audience is having about our brand and what they are saying in regards to our competition. Based on that information, what is heavily influenced is what we say when we go out into the marketplace and to some extent, where we end up focusing our marketing efforts.
How does the marketing team and production collaborate to create an effective strategy to make a show successful?
They know the content better than anyone else. It’s our [marketing’s] responsibility to help figure out what’s the best way to get people to watch our shows on an ongoing basis. It’s a constant feeding process of them informing and educating us on the actual content, and in their opinion, the best way to articulate those things to the audience. We combine those components with what we know about the audience and the competition to help formulate a strategy.
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How do you make sure that your marketing strategy is creative and works in alignment with what the audience wants?
MTV is a creatively led organization. At its roots, MTV was founded on creativity. There is always a focus on being fresh and innovative across the board, delivering something different from what everyone else offers. From a marketing standpoint, every single campaign that we do, we are testing something new and innovative. Personally, I always want to try a new initiative that no one else has done before because I like to be able to say that we did that first. In my opinion, whether it’s successful or it fails, it’s always worth it. If it is a success, we know what works. Contrarily, if it fails, we have learned something and we learned how not to do that again and make better moves onward.
What is a recent example of your most innovative strategy that was successful?
Earlier this year, one of the things that we set out to [discover] is how to integrate social media with traditional media. We developed a massive interactive out-of-home billboard in New York for one of our shows “The Buried Life”. On the billboard’s interactive screen there was a question: ‘What do you want to do before you die?’ As people walked by they had the ability to type their answer to that question and have it show up as a real-time feed among the collection of responses across the world. Using Facebook Connect, the users could also upload their comments to their Facebook wall. We actually just found out that we received the 2010 Buzz Awards for the “Best Out Of Home Advertisement” for this. Even though this next thing hasn’t launched yet, I think it will be big. Everyone knows that Social Gaming is huge. By the end of next week we will launch a new Social Dating Game application called ‘I Woo You,” which will allow you to date cast members from MTV shows. I have high hopes for that one.
What would your response be to critics that believe MTV has contributed to the dumbing down of a generation?
Personally, one of the things that I have noticed about MTV since I’ve been here is that it’s constantly re-imagining itself. It’s constantly rebuilding itself based on what it feels is right at the time, and what it’s told by the audience. What you may have been hearing over the past year or so about the dumbing down of things is a reflection of programming and of content that is older than the generation we are focusing on now. For many years, MTV has provided the audience with what they wanted. Everyone loved the type of reality programming that we have put out there in the past. Now, we’re starting to shift, based on the changes our audience wants [to see].. We’re going to be offering up different types of programming based on different audience needs. We have two new programs coming up next year that we are really excited about, a scripted series “SKINS” and a production sure to amaze, “Teen Wolf”. These are the types of programming people wouldn’t expect from MTV but want to see. So, the answer to critics is MTV just obeys its audience.
Why has MTV stopped focusing on music?
From a music perspective, I would say that MTV has never stopped focusing on music videos. If anything, we have changed our focus on how we play music based on the consumption patterns of our audience. Those patterns reveal they’re consuming music videos online and that’s where we’ve placed the majority of our focus. We have built the largest database of music videos online that we possibly could to ensure a quality music experience. We get tons of visits to our online video library and streaming concerts. In addition to that, where it makes sense, we’re constantly placing emerging music into our shows and into our content to help the audience experience music. We’ve been thanked by our audience time and time again for the music we place into shows.
Does the hit show “Jersey Shore” and the exposure of that demographic that the cast members represent dim the light on African-Americans being exploited on reality television?
I have never looked at it from the perspective of taking the negative context of one group and placing it on another. The way that I see it, “Jersey Shore” is real life within a subset of a particular group. This is a group of kids who are real and they’re fun. It is not trying to position a certain group in a particular way. This is an instance were we saw a lifestyle that was a growing trend within a certain group of people and we put a spotlight on it. That’s what we have done in the past regardless of the ethnicity of the group.
What is the most difficult aspect of your job?
Things are constantly evolving, so the most difficult aspect would be staying on top of the latest and greatest. Our audience has various options to choose from when it comes to consuming media. Ten years ago you had TV, Radio and Print. It was very easy. Now, all audiences are fragmented and new technologies are created every week. Being able to figure out the most effective and efficient way to reach your audience, engage with them and create meaningful experiences is extremely challenging.
Who has influenced you as a leader?
Overall, there is a collection of influences from multiple people that has affected me. On a personal level, my parents have influenced me, by teaching me the importance of education and spirituality, being a man, financial responsibility, integrity and the importance of family. Those influences outside of my personal life are people like Muhammad Ali. I think everyone can relate to Muhammad Ali in some way. Another person is President Obama. I don’t think anyone can look at our President and not be able to take something away from what he has done and how are country made the decision to put him in this position.
Is there a particular philosophy that you have used to guide your success?
Yes, treat everything like it’s your first and last chance to shine, which means that you are giving 120%. Always remember that there is someone else who wants your job.
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